2009年7月27日月曜日

Addendum:

Still trying to figure out but... basically, I think what I'm doing is to "find out meanings" of the real world. It does exist without meanings, and it might be science that proves that.

But what can you possible say, by looking at something like brain functions, about... let's use the same example here, a relationship between teacher and students? You always need meanings to make sense of events. If you are studying brain functions only, you probably wouldn't need to think about what it means (I bed you still do...) but any kind of science and logics are always associated with human reasonings.

If you don't know about OUR methodologies, we don't just believe word to word of an interview data or the result of questionnaires. For example, there is a methodology called triangulation in sociology. We search for evidences to check the validity of interpretation of the raw data, using as "empirical" evidences as possible.


Plus, science has made people believe that everything is in our brain... and I think a lot of people believe that science of human-being is all sorted out by studying nervous system or biological composition of our body... psychology had so much influence by those scientific views too.
But it's becoming to be doubted to see human-beings in that way, and within the last decades, the importance of environmental stimulus have been studied as triggers of human behaviors. What we do cannot necessarily be explained by measuring stuff inside of us.

For example, people thought that babies learn to walk at a certain point and the process of walking is designed by genes in a universal developmental process of human beings. After a baby start moving its legs, while still lying upwards, there is a certain point when it loses the movement and become still until it starts clawing on the floor. And it's been believed that those phases are genetically determined.

Of course certain movements become able supported by development of muscles and bones, but as the body weight of a baby increases, the movement is restricted and even with the physical abilities, it "seems" like they stop moving their legs for some developmental reasons. But when researchers put some equipments on babies to help reduce the weight (gravity is working as an environmental factor) on legs, they start moving their legs again... and with something to step on (environmental factor) (e.g. treadmill), they learn to walk faster than it's been expected for long.
It's all interactive...

The example above is "scientific", but this is something studied in a field of "psychology" as well... my point is that we do examine more than what's called subjective, in order to figure out factors working behind human behaviors. And I feel like it's all the name of academic principles that's bothering you to think that "other than science"" is fuzzy and and not valuable.

Science is more objective?

I was going to put my original post, but since Andrew started a similar topic, here's something I wrote in reply to Andrew's note...

Andrew wrote:

We might not be able to ever get to perfect objectivity. It sometimes feels like our very own objectivity lies inside a large pool of subjectivity.
Does this mean that everything is fake unless we observe it?
Subjectively, this is true but objectively this is false..I would wager.
Then again, you can never really get true objectivity...we can get close. That's basically what science is.
There's this view that science should take into consideration that it is not the ultimate point of view. It's just a really good one inside a sphere of a better point of view...a more comprehensive point of view and one that is more human. I don't know what you would call this but I have heard several of my smart friends talk about this.

Basically, one aspect of the argument is that science CAN have some inherent flaws because humans use science and it can be a human perspective. Science is based on observation but our observations could be wrong....but my question is:

Wrong to who? In what way would it be wrong...or just not entirely correct?

Just the fact that you can say that and think that gives your argument some kind of credibility? I need more than that. If you're saying that there is a better view than science and that science should use that view in its pursuits then that is interesting but it just feels like...well...OK, this is just me but science for me brings me out of my own experience. It's so objective that I don't even feel like me sometimes...it's just an objective entity...this other view you're talking about sounds like you're talking about something that is much less objective and when it comes to feeling "more human" because of its subjectivity, I feel very...awkward. It's like a fake scientific view ...trying to be something...subverting the real scientific view...coming through the backdoor...It's like...you're trying to propose something better than science but...why can't THAT be science? I guess you feel it's so subjective that there's no way real empirical evidence can ever be really obtained ....but that's just negative thinking, right?


Tomo wrote:

Interesting. I have to emphasize that my point is not to say that there are something better than science, but to say that I agree with your idea of "getting close".
Now that being said, first, I feel like what brings you out of your own experience is the logic/reasoning behind the science. Plus, the difference with stuff what you call "other than science" is whether or not the object of research could be explained enough by a mere set of physical observations. you might be able to STUDY it scientifically, but that doesn't mean the scientific explanations could represent the whole phenomena you really wanna know about. For example, how would you SCIENTIFICALLY explain social interactions that happen in a classroom SO IT HELPS PREDICT a set of events or result of interactions in future?

And, researchers in the field of "other than science" are aware that they COULD do it other ways... they just seek for better ways to DESCRIBE EVENTS, not just a group of physical objects but more complicated events including the concept of TIME (and PROCESS) (not just the condition of starting point and the ending point but the process of gradual change)... and that doesn't mean that they think science is not the better way but they just are not interested in the non-dynamic standstill explanations.

I feel like whether or not something is empirical is not the matter of subjectivity/objectivity.

Like you said that something well defined has boundaries, I feel like science gives rigid boundaries to understanding of real world and sometimes loses "the whole dynamics" of things going on in the world.

2009年6月3日水曜日

God and America

God is a position. It's not a name. I hate how everyone always gets this confused. "God" is not a name. It's a position that some being fills. Christians fuck this up all the time. Under old tradition, Yahweh was too holy of a name to say so people just started saying "god." That's how it evolved basically.

Again, people are confused about America. The pilgrims didn't write the Constitution and they did not make America in anyway. They still considered themselves British at the time. They did indeed leave for religious purposes but this has nothing to do with our Constitution. Go about 150 years later and then you have Deists (not Christians for the most part) making the country and writing the Constitution, etc. You gotta be really careful not to mistake the word "God" with the Christian god. Many time, it very well could have been just the Deist god...not Yahweh.



So don't confuse:

1.) God: the position and the being

2.) the Pilgrims and the Founding Fathers

2009年5月28日木曜日

Addendum to the Previous Critique

Other parts of the Bible do mention about those topics but basically this is just a critique on the Ten Commandments. If you think it's a perfect and exhaustive list, please think again.

A Critique on the Ten Commandments

 Most Christians will agree that The Ten Commandments are the most perfect set of moral rules ever created. This is old news to a lot of people but I think that for a lot of the people that read this it might not be. The Ten Commandments have nothing to say about 

child molestation

rape

genocide

slavery

homophobia

women's, gay, whoever's rights in general


Also, people like to say that the Old Testament is not really the thing you should follow but that's where the Ten Commandments show up. Why are people saying both? Maybe the argument is that the Ten Commandments are so powerful they supercede whatever Covenant they happen to be in but I don't think most people are thinking that far. 

Basically, the thing needs to be updated. These are Bronze Age rules. We need something a little newer than that.

2009年5月23日土曜日

Places I've Never Been To But Want to Visit



By the way, just zoom out on the map below.

2009年5月22日金曜日